rockpalast christmas special [18.12.99]

*** rockpalast5 is now known as Matthew_from_MUSE
<Matthew_from_MUSE> hello
<SugarApe> scum, are you livin in the uk?
<Trude> Hello M
<Mary> How are you matthew?
<Elenwen> really!?, , some ppl told me that is so dificult
<SugarApe> oh,
<Trude> Where are you Matthew
<Neon> I'll be in Texas in March
<Mary> I'm also fine! How was the gig?
<SugarApe> hello muse, how are you all
<Elenwen> Brett rawks!!
<Elenwen> Hello mathew
<dominic_from_MUSE> we are good
<Matthew_from_MUSE> hi elenwen
<Matthew_from_MUSE> yes
<Stoppi> Hello Muse! How did you like the Berlin audience
<scum1> there should be a copy here. I'll be gone as well so I hope
<Matthew_from_MUSE> hi stoppi, very good audience i think
<Trude> Hi Dominic how are you?
<Anders> I they come I make copy
<Clare> i'll e-mail you
<Matthew_from_MUSE> who is unintended?
<dominic_from_MUSE> trude------ im fine and you
<Mary> Dominic, will you play all the German gigs with Bush?
<scum1> Let me know if they make it Anders
<Anders> dominic: what kind of music do you play?
<Anders> scum I mail you'
<Mary> that'S really cool! So I can finally go and see you, muse!!
<Neon> Will do - will be late March some time
<<Trude> Dominic, whats it like there
<Mary> Dominic, which are your fave bands?
<scum1> I need to know so I can make sure I'm not working
<Trude> I can hear Live doing Imagine
<Stoppi> When will there be a headliner-tour in Germany ?
<Neon> I'll mail you when I've booked the flight - you can meet my crazy friends
<Mary> Matthew, what are your fave bands?
<Mary> Why primus today?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> oo as das da bully bully bully
<scum1> ok Neon sounds like a plan
<Mary> bully bully bully??
<Anders> ok
<Matthew_from_MUSE> what are your fave bands, ary?
<toothbrush> You're all asking the same......
<Trude> John Lennon is COOOOL
<Mary> Kula Shaker, Blur and Placebo if you're really interested! :-)
<scum1> sure
<Neon> Who the hell are they, anyway?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> how u know they^re playing that trude?
<scum1> Muse do you all like the crims?
*** rockpalast1 is now known as tom
<Matthew_from_MUSE> i don^t know the crims
<Mary> PLACEBO are really cool!!
<Neon> You don't know the crims, you ain't lived
<Michelle-NYC> you tell him Neon
<Mary> Don't you like Placebo, Mathew?
<scum1> fun lovin criminals
<Matthew_from_MUSE> i like air yes
<Matthew_from_MUSE> no
<Mary> Why not placebo?
<Anders> Matthew>: .. dimitri from paris?
<Mary> where are you actually all from?
<Elenwen> Santander
<Mary> which cities I mean
<dominic_from_MUSE> maybe
<tom> mary, were actually from devon, england
<Matthew_from_MUSE> hi tom
<tom> denise, denise
<Trude> I'ts awful because I can hear it but not see anything
<Neon> Devon Home of Rockstars. Who'd have thought it?
<Joyce> from Holland
<tom> what do you want from me mathew
<Trude> Fine denise
<Elenwen> fine
<Elenwen> the soul of ... who?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> hi sissi
<glamrock> I WANT YOU TO ADORE ME! hi muses!
<Neon> There's some in the fridge somewhere
<SugarApe> i lost mine last weekend...........
<Mary> Hi GA
<Elenwen> I got many souls, I can sold you some
<glamrock> why?
<dominic_from_MUSE> live, , about five minutes ago
<Matthew_from_MUSE> so dry
<Matthew_from_MUSE> so so dry
<glamrock> thank you VISIONS for making me buy your record!
<dominic_from_MUSE> supergrass were v ery good
<Mary> I love glamrock!
<tom> elenwen, how much for your soul?
<Joyce> dumf? :-)
<tom> mary, what is dumf
<Joyce> have a drink, that 'll help
<glamrock> are you guys drunk?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> i am drinking indeed
<Mary> Dominic said dumf!
<tom> dominic is dumf
<dax> (for the whole band )how are you celebrating 2000?
<Mary> yeah, common tell us!
<Matthew_from_MUSE> iceland
<tom> i can tell you everything
<Joyce> ... he said ironically :-)
<scum1> Yes pretty good actually
<glamrock> are you glamouring germany soon again?
<Neon> (sorry)
<Trude> Can you see it as well
<Matthew_from_MUSE> . . . . . . . . . . .
<tom> matt, what do you think of the world of today?
<Mary> Elenwen, are you still there? :-)
<Matthew_from_MUSE> what is your name glam rock?
<tom> mary, its so obvious it hurts
<glamrock> www.musclemuseum.net
<Matthew_from_MUSE> www.musclemuseum.com
<Matthew_from_MUSE> nice name
<dominic_from_MUSE> real nice
<glamrock> tried to enter my mail address today, but it didn't work
<Mary> tom> I asked her because she said nothing, ok?
<Joyce> nishe?
<Elenwen> Ive gotta go
<scum1> Right answer neon. I'm impressed
<Matthew_from_MUSE> phone dom : 00447971352796
<Trude> Is it ALIVE ??
<Neon> I guess my eddycation taught me something...
<glamrock> who's dom?
<toothbrush> You can eat worms without tequila...
<Trude> UGHHH
<unintende> hi matt, did you enjoy the christmas special?
<dominic_from_MUSE> im going too
<Huey> hey everyone
<Mary> noooo stay here!
<Neon> Imposter!
<Elenwen> bye Dom and Mathew
<Matthew_from_MUSE> hi joyce
<tom> mary, what ever he tells you, it is his nickname
<glamrock> come back to germany soooooooon
<Trude> If you really are Huey what did you do with the spikes ???
<dominic_from_MUSE> ok
<tom> mary, his real name is frederick van vossel
<Matthew_from_MUSE> dominic from muse wants your call: 00447971352796
<dominic_from_MUSE> 0
<dominic_from_MUSE> 4
<Neon> Good tequila down there - I have to tolerate the stuff they manage to export from Mex.
<dominic_from_MUSE> 8
<Matthew_from_MUSE> 5
<Matthew_from_MUSE> 2
<Matthew_from_MUSE> 3
<Matthew_from_MUSE> 6
<dominic_from_MUSE> 9
<Matthew_from_MUSE> 0
<dominic_from_MUSE> 6
<Neon> 0
<SugarApe> stop f ing scrolling
<Matthew_from_MUSE> go on
<Joyce> haven't got a phone here... no cellular anyway
<SugarApe> Id do it, but im on the net
<Mary> NOW
<Huey> phone who?
<Joyce> now
<Joyce> hehe
<Joyce> dom, mat, whatever
<Mary> why not tom?
<dominic_from_MUSE> tom
<Mary> what??
<tom> cause my phone number is in england
<Joyce> where's Chris when you need him ;-)
<Mary> want mine?
<tom> chris is in the band room
<unintende> what do think of germany?
<Joyce> what's live's best song?
<Joyce> no song maybe?
<Joyce> or, ehm, waitress?
<tom> theres no best song, is there?
<Huey> so whats going down
<tom> mary, im not there, im here with muse in germany
<Mary> are you?
<Trude> Yeah I know
<Trude> Get up
<tom> yes indeed
<glamrock> mine
<toothbrush> in my bed!!
<Matthew_from_MUSE> this is lives best song
<tom> everyone is into this bed stuff, hey?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> taht
<Matthew_from_MUSE> thata
<Matthew_from_MUSE> that
<Neon> You'd get makeup all over your lillows
<Neon> pillows
<Neon> oops
<Mary> wasn't the song before this lives best song already?
<glamrock> he
<toothbrush> Thanks Matthew!
<dominic_from_MUSE> not a chance
<Matthew_from_MUSE> i have make up yes
<glamrock> see
<dominic_from_MUSE> is it on radio now
<Huey> hey scum its me
<Joyce> androgyn men are cool
<tom> but his makeup isnt in the normal places
<glamrock> skirts?
<tom> 55 little bear cubs
<Joyce> yeah, why not.
<Michelle-NYC> scum left dude
<Trude> stockings too !!!!
<tom> ok, 56
<Trude> Hi Michelle
<Michelle-NYC> hi trude
<Neon> that's a startling image
<Mary> oh yes, men in tights!! niiice!!
<Joyce> what's music for girls?
<Emmy> Hi every body !!!
<dominic_from_MUSE> of corse
<Trude> Robin Hoods all
<Joyce> yup, Paradiso
<Joyce> I'll be there
<I_love_muse> i will be there!
<Matthew_from_MUSE> where are you now joyce?
<Neon> Is Scum checking in again later?
<tom> has mary gone?
<toothbrush> I love men with blue underwear
<Trude> Yes
<Mary> no man!
<Matthew_from_MUSE> i like holland
<Mary> wanna get rid of me or what?
<Neon> I like men in silk boxers
<Neon> Bummer
<Joyce> the
<Michelle-NYC> hi matt how are you?
<I_love_muse> youR
<Matthew_from_MUSE> thankyou love
<I_love_muse> i am a guy heh
<Joyce> and the Paradiso is a legendary venue to play
<Neon> Men are cool
<Mary> hey Joyce, which bands did you see at Paradiso?
<tom> where are you from mary?
<Joyce> phew, quite a few
<Matthew_from_MUSE> live are playing
<Trude> I can hear clapping n whistling
<tom> where in germany, mary
<Mary> but it's incredible boring here
<Mary> bremen!! hahaha
<Joyce> good for you
<tom> oh sorry
<Mary> unfortunatley not
<Joyce> I'm infecting people in Holland with the Muse virus
<Matthew_from_MUSE> hmm. . .
<Matthew_from_MUSE> some good stuff
<Trude> It brill quality
<tom> how far is it
<Michelle-NYC> Matt will you be touring NYC?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> yes
<Matthew_from_MUSE> we have played there michelle
<Matthew_from_MUSE> back in march
<Neon> No news Anders
<I_love_muse> muse: how long have you been together as a band, and since when do you have a record contract?
<Dominic_from_MUSE> they can really smoke
<Matthew_from_MUSE> soon
<<Matthew_from_MUSE not sure yet
<tom were leaving here in a few hours or so
<Matthew_from_MUSE depends who we^re touring with
<kaysi at 9 o'clock tomrrow
<SugarApe MUSE, are you gonna come to edinburgh in scotland?
<tom no i cant
<Mary I'll be in Hamburg when you're there with Bush, Tom!!
<Michelle-NYC oh ok
<Neon Devon (snigger)
<I_love_muse MUSE: have you guys been influenced by Jeff Buckley?
<glamrock looking forward to seeing you on the telly tonight
<Joyce when will you be in England: I am going to London somewhere in january :-)
<Matthew_from_MUSE tonight???
<I_love_muse i think track 4 really sounds like J Buckley
<Neon Just put it down to a smoke too many
<glamrock yep
<dominic_from_MUSE so you know how funny devom is
<Neon Of Devon? Not a great deal admittedly - used to go there on my hols
<SugarApe devon is a hilariouse place
<tom are you english then?
<Neon Didn't strike me as being a rockstar breeding ground, that's all
<Matthew_from_MUSE yes
<Neon yes
<SugarApe edinburgh
<dominic_from_MUSE where about
<Matthew_from_MUSE ah, we^re playing in edingburgh
<SugarApe ooooooooo, when?
<Stoppi jag var i Stockholm
<tom do you like supergrass then?
<Scoff Are you guys playing any gigs in England soon? I need to see you live.
<Matthew_from_MUSE hop and grape
<dominic_from_MUSE yes tom
<tom yes dom?
<dominic_from_MUSE yrs
<I_love_muse MUSE: let's go into the nightlife of Amsterdam on Jan 6, ok?
<SugarApe you all been to edinburgh before?
<Joyce yeah, let's: I'm coming with you :-)
<<tom do you know hurricane no1
<Neon> They're cool!
<dominic_from_MUSE> no one does
<I_love_muse> joyce: have you been working for CODEM?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> i have seen amsterdams nightlife a few times
<Denise> Do you guys like Düsseldorf ?
<Mary> hurricane # are cool!!
<dominic_from_MUSE> oh yes
<Anders> matthew: did you try the stockholm nightlife?
<Joyce> I_Love_Muse: Then I know you too... I think :-)
<Mary> your ass too!
<Matthew_from_MUSE> a bit maybe
<I_love_muse> joyce: i am stijn, we have met on the Live mailinglist
<I_love_muse> muse: ok, so you're going to bed right after the show in Amsterdam? :)
<Joyce> hehe
<Trude> That crowd sound good
<Joyce> Just two words: The Bulldog
<glamrock> why does everbody want to shag rockstars?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> hang around with you i guess
<Mary> who wants that?
<Neon> Kadinsky is better than Bulldog
<manice> good artist
<Joyce> Milky Way maybe. Korsakov
<tom> rage against..smashing pumkins, primus, tom waits, etc etc
<I_love_muse> seen you 3 times
<Matthew_from_MUSE> where?
<Mary> I really like the smashing pumkins too!
<tom> glam..im a friend of the band.
<Matthew_from_MUSE> me
<Mary> are you? what's the singer like?
<dominic_from_MUSE> yes iam
<Mary> really?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> i am not am i?
<tom> you thought it would be different?
<glamrock> he has to be strange making suchmusic
<Joyce> geniuses are strange
<manice> i mean strange
<dominic_from_MUSE> strnge isnt the word
<tom> OH TO BE SURE MARY
<Neon> Or Wilde/
<I_love_muse> joyce: let meet before the MUSE show on 6th, ok?
<Denise> the most people who make good music are strange...
<manice> wild is good
<Joyce> I_Love_muse... let's mail
<manice> true d.
<I_love_muse> heh
<I_love_muse> DOH
<Stoppi> Tom, do you was the guy who had some drinks with dominic while live was playing in berlin?
<Mary> WEIRD IS GREAT
<Matthew_from_MUSE> cologne in feb think
<Joyce> okay
<GL> wer ist hier bekannte stars?
<glamrock> yeah - cologne!!!
<I_love_muse> ok great
<manice> cologne
<Joyce> joice@wxs.nl
<Matthew_from_MUSE> why?
<SugarApe> anyone knw yet when the crims are on?
<glamrock> shouldn't faint - you miss the concert!
<Joyce> Bad breath? :-)
<Michelle-NYC> not yet sugar
<Michelle-NYC> but still hanging on
<Matthew_from_MUSE> hi bubbes
<Michelle-NYC> they better not leave us hanging flat
<tom> WHY
<Joyce> I_love_muse: je mail doet het niet...
<SugarApe> nice talkin to you, see ya @the venue!
<Matthew_from_MUSE> ko
<Neon> Have they ever actually made one of these chats?
<tom> WHERES MARY
<dominic_from_MUSE> stoppi
<I_love_muse> stijn@entity.nl moet werken
<Joyce> ok
<Mary> here!! You left me! hahaha
<tom> YOU DONT KNOW WHY YOUR SAYING SORRY?
<tom> i never left you
<dominic_from_MUSE> weird
<Matthew_from_MUSE> bittersweet symphony!!!
<tom> no thats weird
<Mary> oooh you'll never do, will you?
<tom> in what way was he
<I_love_muse> &^^*&*
<Joyce> I hate winter
<dominic_from_MUSE> yes check it out
<Joyce> they split
<Mary> Tom: where will you be tomorrow?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> hi susi
<dominic_from_MUSE> preety sad isnt it
<tom> were travelling to vienna
*** I_love_muse is now known as Falling_Down
<susi> Hi Mat!
<Falling_Down> *poof*
<Neon> I think another cancellation calls for a rude email
<Mary> vienna's really beautiful, ever been there?
<tom> no never before, im really excited
<susi> How was your show?
<Falling_Down> hi!
<tom> i guess so
<Matthew_from_MUSE> what is ya name
<Joyce> I_Love_Muse: stijn doet het ook niet
<Falling_Down> MUSE: please say hi to my friend Gurly tomorrow in Munich during the show, ok :)
<Trude> Fiona are you the Fi from the FLC message board ?
<tom> probably, im with muse not supergrass
<Falling_Down> joyce: dan email ik jou
<Joyce> falling_down?
<Trude> sorry
<Fiona> That's ok
<Matthew_from_MUSE> àh ise
<Matthew_from_MUSE> ah i seee
<susi> did you play cave tonight?
<Mary> oooh dear.. maybe you'll meet my friend Nina there then!
<Falling_Down> Gurly absolutely loves Muse
<Falling_Down> yeah
<Falling_Down> :)
<Matthew_from_MUSE> strange name
<Mary> oooh yes! You can be sure
<Michelle-NYC> don't know for sure looby
<tom> in what way?
<Falling_Down> say hi from her Dutch friend
<glamrock> it'a ll about sex
<toothbrush> This is a German name?
<Mary> MEN!!!
<Falling_Down> then i will buy you a beer in amsterdam
<glamrock> and MEN - of course!
<Mary> that's what I say, typical!
<tom> come on, give me a break
<Mary> pretty mad as well
<Fiona> Who the fuck is Muse anyway?Where are yous from?
<Falling_Down> MUSE is gonna be THE hit of 2000!
<Matthew_from_MUSE> hu fiona, we are nobodys
<tom> fiona youre very rude
<Scoff> You will be somebody soon
<Fiona> Please just tell me
<tom> good point joyce
<Matthew_from_MUSE> go to www.musclemuseum.com fiona
<Mary> except of looking out for pretty mad girls
<Trude> fiona, are you scouse
<Falling_Down> *BuRp*
<Fiona> No I'm not
<glamrock> why can't i enter my mail-adress on your website?
<tom> yeah, in valloire
<tom> snowboarding
<dominic_from_MUSE> nice plac
<dominic_from_MUSE> e
<tom> why e
<tom> i dont do e
<Falling_Down> MUSE: where can i find the lyrics of your album?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> keen
<Joyce> e sucks
<glamrock> mhhhhhh - but i'd love to get information-mails and all that stuff
<Mary> hahahaha would love to see that!
<dominic_from_MUSE> time
<tom> im gonna film it
<Mary> snowmen!
<Falling_Down> MUSE: where can i find the lyrics of your album?
<dominic_from_MUSE> im gonna be in it
<glamrock> glamourama@gmx.net
<tom> with coal eyes and carrot nobs
<Mary> oh kewl, will you? send it to me!!!!
<Falling_Down< ok
<Trude> Hi Sugarape
<tom> maybe
<Joyce> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~mrgnet/muse/index.html
<Trude> Where ya Been
<Falling_Down> thanks
<Matthew_from_MUSE> what is that site joyce?
<glamrock> am i registered now? HAHA
<tom> how much would you give for it
<Mary> how do you want
<Trude> I'm going for one now, and a boiled egg chopped up in a cup
<Stoppi> My email is itsjustme@t-online.de
<tom> too much
<Mary> erm how MUCh do you want?
<Joyce> Matt: a site about you, with lyrics, sounds (live in HMV) and pics
<SugarApe> I might nip off for a martini citro.Hmmm.....
<Mary> oh dear, so I've lost
<Falling_Down> who are here now, the singer and guitar player? or??
<Joyce> matt: nope, English
<Mary> how do you mean that
<Falling_Down> ah cool
<Falling_Down> heh
<tom> have you an email and well down load it or something
<SugarApe> How old are you, muse?
<toothbrush> did u think u were talking to the drum machine?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> 21
<tom> download dom and mine asses on a snowy alp
<toothbrush> I'm 21 too
<Denise> singer and guitar player are same, right ?
* Falling_Down is 20 mooOOoOOooOOooo
<tom> it#ll be well worth the sores
<Anders> 18
<susi> 21
<rica> 22
<Stoppi> 16
<tom> 22
<Falling_Down> heh whoa
<Mary> hey, get something to write, you really need my email, don't you?
<susi> cool stuff
<Mary> nooooo it's only for me! :-)
<Falling_Down> MUSE: which other bands did influence you?
<tom> ok mary
<Denise> hey if stoppi is too young, Im too young too !
<Joyce> damn, i am only 28 and i feel old ;-)
<tom> well, we could talk about it
<Matthew_from_MUSE> too young for what?
<Mary> hosannah@t-online.de
<Mary> okay???? :-)))
<Joyce> thanks toothbrush, i feel much better now ;-)
<Joyce> love to see your pix!
<Falling_Down> she burnnnnns like a sunnn!!!
<Mary> never forget
<glamrock> okay, my email is further above
<Matthew_from_MUSE> which pix joyce?
<SugarApe> whats the adress for the muse site?
<Matthew_from_MUSE> www.musclemuseum.com
<tom> i'll planning to break his head before that
<Falling_Down> damn, you type too fast matthew :)
<Mary> whoe head?
<susi> Is Dom still there??
<dominic_from_MUSE> but im goin g to break his ass
<Joyce> hehe, well, I like Dom :-)
<susi> ok, only wanted to know
<Mary> u don't like bush or what
<dominic_from_MUSE> tom
<tom> only after you#ve tried to jump it
<manice> sure sweety
<glamrock> a mam can make you warm i guess
<glamrock> man
<rica> who do you think you are, falling?
<dominic_from_MUSE> only after youve kissed it
<Joyce> tom will you be in Amsterdam in january with the band?
<Joyce> weehee, kiss his ass buddy
<susi> come on
<Mary> your ass???
<tom> whats it to do with u joyce
<Anders> matthew: have you been to browns in london?
<Son> Stijn?
<dominic_from_MUSE> it
<Son> whoeiJ!
<Joyce> tom, you were talking in public here :-)
<Matthew_from_MUSE> what is browns?
<toothbrush> kiss what?
<susi> whose???
<manice> sweet
<glamrock> pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
<Falling_Down> MUSE: meet sweet Sonja, going to your Jan 6 show too!
<dax> hallo son
<Anders> nightclub
<Mary> so is it true with bush or not?
<Joyce> ken ik jou Son?
<Mary> oh no!! Dutch!! :-)
<tom> Im off, the fun loving criminals are on and its gonna be good, so cheers, bye!
<dominic_from_MUSE> im gonna check it
<glamrock> bye tom
<Joyce> cheers tom
<dominic_from_MUSE> flc that is
<Son> Den haag, Holland
<glamrock> bye dom
<Stoppi> bye tom!
<Trude> Tom are the crims there now, Live is still on !!!!
<Joyce> joice@wxs.nl
<Mary> bye tom!
<SugarApe> are all of you off
<Matthew_from_MUSE> im off now too
<Trude> no i'm not
<glamrock> bye MATT
<toothbrush> *sniff*
<tom> bye cool nron
<Mary> I'll tell her!! ;-)
<tom> neon
<Stoppi> bye!
<SugarApe> see you in edinburgh
<Falling_Down> cya on Jan 6!
<manice> just a question anything new from live
<Denise> Bye you two !
<Morgaine> MUSE RULES!!!!!!!
<Matthew_from_MUSE> bye then
<Mary> :-))
<tom> i wont
<dominic_from_MUSE> chris says hi
<tom> bye sugar grape
<Anders> TOM: are the criminals there`??????
<Stoppi> never forget me too!
<SugarApe> see ya tom
<tom> pretty soon anders
<Falling_Down> moOOoOOOoOOOoooooOOOoooo
<manice> muse
<Matthew_from_MUSE> that is a fat reefer
<Stoppi> bye dom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<tom> pretty much
<tom> ok.
<dominic_from_MUSE> i hate goodbyes
<Joyce> :-(
<Stoppi> sorry!!!!!!!!!!
<tom> i hate them more
<SugarApe> dont get tearfull, dom!?
<Mary> especially now
<Neon> Give me a shout if you decide to play in my part of the country
<glamrock> the terrace?
<dominic_from_MUSE> oh everyones crying
<Joyce> just leave :-)
<Mary> very bad indeed
<manice> pig
<Joyce> don't make it any harder than it is ;-)
<Matthew_from_MUSE> :)
<dominic_from_MUSE> thats not tears tom
<Falling_Down> joice: email on it's wau
<Falling_Down> way
<glamrock> just turn around and leave
<Falling_Down> waY
<Joyce> ok
<Trude> Have a good holiday Muse Bye
<Joyce> joice@wxs.nl
<dominic_from_MUSE> is better
<Neon> Get Huey to roll you on - you'll all feel much better
<susi> merry christmas and bye....
<toothbrush> never seen such a terrible goodbye!
<SugarApe> just go!!
<dominic_from_MUSE> ok im really off now ....cheers